Adonys

I already answered those kind of dumbs answers, there is no interest on answering again. I think you're wrong saying it's only a player issue : this problem impacts a lot of players, and only a few of them are talking about it : the reason about it is that as I already said, a lot of other players like EL DIOS, LawStyles or El Innombrable are insulting or denigrating the ones complaining about the situation, being irrespectful and giving no argument at all. You can't deny the fact that tax rates increased a lot the past few days, as I already mentionned Endgame and LaRepublique. Players being this aggressive while we just discuss about the facts can also be taken as the proof that they have something to protect. What is happening is so obvious that you can only be in denial of fact. Jordan basically said that he didn't want to be involved in a community issue (which is shameful for someone who has to do so), putting aside a part of the community. Also, not doing anything because "people would become toxic" is again, not an argument. You're not giving any answers or any consideration to the people having trouble to play the game because of the greed of a few people.

I'll go deeper on why I'm upset about what is happening. First, I want to be clear on one thing : I understand the fact that the first guild to achieve guild town lvl 6 has to be rewarded. HOWEVER. I really disagree with Matt's explanations and I'll explain why. 1) Guilds are fully entitled to do what they are doing : For me it's a fact, not an argument. Being entitled to do something doesn't mean what you're doing is just, honest, or flawless. Futhermore, it leads in a situation where a few people can have everything, and the others nothing. I'm okay with the fact that you have to pay for what you want to possess, but it always works with an idea of equity => I'll make you pay the value of the item, and a little bit more to gain money. (here it's not the case) 2) Players are not required to use the guild town, and SweetDreams doesn't expect us to do so. Well you're right, we could just wait. But then you have to admit that a guild that can provide new content stuff BLOCKS this access to the content to any player out of their guild to make personal profit is selfish, unethical, and this applies when you're day 1, day 30, or day 365 after the release of the new content. This argument of "it's only 3 days after the release" is to me, again, a non-valid argument. So what ? The first days, is it fine to be an asshole ? No. This kind of selfish behavior just make a part of the community wait, it's being at your feet just because you decided it has to be this way. I believe it's not acceptable. 3) Crafting the lvl 60 sets is a waste of time. Here we go, more and more in the fallacious arguments. Already that you defend the ones who block the content, but to defend them you're now deciding arbitrarily what content is good or not and indirectly telling people what to do. I'm a lvl 60 player, and I want to craft my lvl 60 set that I prepared a few days ago because I'm enjoying it. But I can't play the way I want, for the reasons I already mentionned before. Players should be able to play how they want, when they want, as long as they respect each others. It's call FREEDOM. 4) 1000% tax rate was a common thing back then as a way to deter others players to compete. I can't believe you said that ! So, according to what you said before, those lvl 60 sets are pretty bad, except a few of them. BUT are they good enough to make you fear competition ? It's been a moment that you started contradict yourself in your arguments. If those sets are bad, this argument has no value at all. Also, a rule being a common thing a while ago isn't concrete proof of it being a good rule. Now that I reviewed your arguments, i'll display mines. 1) First guild to have monopoly on something has to be rewarded. Yes ! and it's natural. But as it has been said before, upgrading a guild town to lvl 6 doesn't seem to cost THAT much. Rewarding, fine (50% tax maybe, gg wp) ; 1000% taxing isn't a reward, it's pure greed. I'll go further in my explanation because a lot of ppl in the game were giving me this argument : just wait, maybe go craft your items in other guild towns, blabla.... but guess what. Did you see those other guild towns (Hello Endgame and LaRepublique) with a 50% tax ? They had a 15% tax right before the maint. So I thought a bit about that, and It's obvious when you look at it : they also have the npcs who sells lvl 60 sets bps. Of course ! People don't want to buy those bps with a 1000% tax rate, so what will they do ? They will search for others guild towns to get those bps with a lower tax rate. And those guilds, are taking advantage of the situation to go through our pockets. Now it's not one guild town unaccessable, but 3 (4 if we include 911) for poor players. Will you tell us that we have to wait again? Now that was can see this situation, is this argument "We need a reward" still convincing ? No. This situation is taking hostage a part of the community from playing, because a few selfish and unethical people wants to make benefits. - Now that I talked about my point of vue, it's time to have a rant. This morning, I wanted to enjoy the new content by making crafts, and when I saw this abusive taxing everywhere, I got upset. I shared my point of vue on the situation in world chat (maybe not a great idea...), while being respectful and non-insulting to anyone. Maybe I was naive, but I felt REALLY sad when I saw all those angry people barking at me, saying that I'm a cry baby, that I had to quit the game if the situation didn't please me, that I had to make my own lvl 6 guild and that I needed to stop complaining. This part is more personal, but I think it's interesting to talk about that too. For me, complaining isn't a bad thing, (it has to be constructive tho). But this morning, I wasn't complaining for the sake of complaining, I was denouncing an injustice. A lot of people were angry at me just because I was complaining, not seeing the ideas I wanted to share. In my opinion, complaining is the best thing we can do to make this server better for everyone. It also works in the real world : any world we live isn't rigid, it lives with us. The rules are the rules we decided to make and apply, and sometimes rules are wrong. It our duty as part of this community to denounce abusive rules, even if it costs a few of us to be disparaged or insulted. Please, take a step back from the situation, and think about what could be the best for everyone. Also, to infantilize me like that as an argument is childish and shows that some people doesn't have any relevant argument to share. If you infantilize or make fun of the one sharing his point of view, you already lost. I used the word "lost" here, because I saw that some ppl were apprehending debates as a fight, and not as an exchange between different points of vue. Furthermore, please take in consideration the part of the community who can't play all day or put all their salary into the game. Telling me that I needed to make my own lvl 6 guild is a joke at this point, not an argument. Players who want to have a little good time to enjoy on this server needs to have access to the content the same way as the others, without discrimination. To finish with this part, telling me that I had to quit the game if the situation didn't please me is at the same level of stupidity. (sorry for the bad word D:) . I feel bad about having to talk about this, but I guess I have to. Being this close-minded is revolting, but it's understandable coming from the players benefiting from this system, they won't want things to change. I hope we will be able to form an open-minded community who cares about each other during those difficult times. There is ONE Eden Eternal Vendetta, and making it a super privileged VIP club with only people who won't criticize anything would sign the end of everything (again it also works in real life). I also think it's shameful that a GS (Herakles) promotes this kind of behavior instead of promoting discussion and open-mindness. I want to thank warmly the ones who supported me, I also want to thank the ones who accepted to talk about this topic calmly and respectfully, and take care guys (Maybe my english isn't perfect, english isn't my mother tongue language, but I did my best)

I wanted to discuss about that in game and I felt the same way as you, (not) surprisingly a lot of people insulted me or just told me that I had to stop complaining (a GS did that, yes !) I fully support you in the fact that the tax gap should be lowered, a part of the community needs it to be able to play decently and without too much frustration