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    The fall of Squizzy

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    I am closing the thread now.

    I believe both sides have vented their opinion. I won't sit and read people slating staff members when the only people right now beeing offensive are the friends and associates of Squizzy.

    I'll stand firm on ban discussions in the forums. If you wish to discuss this further go back to your ticket.

     

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    The fall of Squizzy

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    Posted

    4 minutes ago, Nyet said:

    I don't really see what different people disproving it have to do with anything at all. How does the evidence provided not prove the exact thing you're accusing of to be wrong? Kaizou has basically explained it himself and if you didn't notice, there is not a single piece of reasoning aside from your own from anyone saying Yes as to why they believe it to be a hack.  However for pretty much everyone who has said no they are saying why they believe that to be the case? Is that not your idea of third party intervention?

    I can understand why you aren't explaining how your system works, but if it has gone off when we've replicated which I can be sure it has considering the circumstances were exact then that adds more evidence to his case. People are not going to go out of their way to help because they either don't want him unbanned, couldn't give a shit or already believe as stated many times throughout the thread by people saying no the video says enough.

    Sadly despite what you think this has nothing to do with my persistence, if I truly believed he was hacking and the evidence that we have presented to be insufficient I wouldn't be bending over backwards to prove otherwise. I admitted it was suspicious, I have said it's been disproved, if anything it's a learning curve for not only your GS team but perhaps for your implementation of adjustments to your system and the banning of people using eagle eye. At no point was anything he did in the clip outside of the capabilities of the game, if you played it I'm sure you would understand that.

    But that being said more video evidence showing it as a game flaw and not someones response (Remember I don't know who is associated to who) will be better. There is no difference in a GS or someone who dislikes or likes Squizzy to respond and give their reasons why as it can be taken as a bias opinion. Anyone who responds yes will be attacked and their reasons will be invalid you guys have shown that in the past with other debates.

    I am always willing to adapt and push forward, I learn from my mistakes that's why this network can boast it's lifespan proudly. This isn't something I take lightly at all and I hate dealing with Eagle Eye cases for this very reason. The only grounds we have right now to hold his ban is the log and the video you're right and the fact it was caught by a GS.

    Just because I do not play the game now does not mean I don't know the game. I played NosTale years ago yes but believe me the technology behind the game has not changed and from a technical perspective I know more than all of you about this game remember that.

    The fall of Squizzy

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    5 minutes ago, Nyet said:

    Right, but can you explain how your "system" which "picks up invis hits" is at all helpful in this case.

    Your system would trigger for the video we sent showing evidence it's not a hack? I simply don't understand your argument here at all. Why would a third party get involved to disprove your allegation when as I've explained, it's based on his ping being based in Australia so they can't replicate exactly? And as well as that, it would've been in a ticket had Ryan not brought light to the situation so would've never been solved?

    I just can't understand where you're coming from at all? If you want other people to be involved that's one thing, but your message to "Go public" was rhetorical? How could they have got involved?

    If I'm honest, your system seems redundant and doesn't add any stability to your argument as I had stated, it would've gone off in the video we made as evidence.

    If you can let me know your thought process on either of the two above it would be much appreciated. Also this isn't taking jabs, I am just truly struggling to see your side on this, hence I'm being forward with my replies and disproving your rebuttals. 

    The system is redundant that is for certain (for most cases). There are many log systems in place for people who try stuff that just merely logs, people who speed hack (it's detected), people who use packet logger (it's detected) but unless someone is caught we don't do anything about it as a system saying "detected" isn't enough. This is why anti-hacks on games rather DC you then actually ban you as nothing is for certain. We have to be right 110% of the time when all you have to be right on is once and then you benefit so it's important to know the difference and how we process these things.

    I can't go into full details on how we detect Eagle Eye for obvious reasons. I have probably described it a bit simple, it does more than I have described it wouldn't trigger all the time as a few other variables are thrown into the mix. There are many factors into why the system does log you though.

    However, the evidence given shows something fishy is going on and when checking the logs it corresponds with the data given. I am only asking other people to disprove it as it gives you guys a better ground to stand on. I'd rather spend my day working than going back and forward in a thread, this isn't a pride thing for being wrong or an ego thing I'd rather be doing other things right now as well.

    Unbanning Squizzy would be the easiest option but I stand firm on decisions made as the next Eagle Eye case to come through all it has to do is have a persistent friend to waste my time and voila they get unbanned. This is why I am asking for others to try disprove it so I can be certain.

    The fall of Squizzy

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    1 minute ago, Nyet said:

    Ok first off lets start with your "System" I am more than happy to hit u invisible 500x in a row if you'd like, that requires 0 skill it's a very simple thing to do, so that can easily be disproved, yes with a direct skill.

    How can what be avoided? Saying something is suspicious doesn't mean it's 100% and I said that I tested with him and replicated your exact issue, so what seems to be the basis he's banned upon? First it's the invis hit as the sin was "not moving", then it's your GS team, then it's a fibi, now it's not using an AOE? Seems like you're clutching straws.

    I have already showed you how it's a flaw in the system and you've ignored the evidence put forward, the people who are saying it's no is BECAUSE of the EVIDENCE given, why would they replicate the same evidence? It literally took 5 minutes for us to do and see how flawed the system is. Not only that but they may be unable to replicate since it's a PING ISSUE and he is in Australia.

    And why are you even talking about court? They don't use lie detectors in court as they aren't 100% successful, so why does your "system" have any validity? Thanks for disproving that point I suppose?

    If you truly think that the evidence is not showing it's a false ban I don't know what more to say, it's literally the exact same thing that happened, cast interrupt -> Skip cells -> Replace back to original position -> Hit invis, yet None of that actually happened on Ryan's screen as he lagged. Do I need to simplify this any more?

    It's the basis of the report and the evidence showed and the fact there is a log (usually on Eagle Eye cases we'd not find the log at the time of the report like this one, some we have banned because the log is there and there is sufficient evidence).

    I think you need to take a step back and stop assuming this is being done on purpose here. I really don't care if he is banned or not and I have explained how I believe it's good to have players like him, so take a step back before I stop talking altogether as this is getting ridiculous now.

    As I've said get other people to disprove it and I'll take it more serious. But as it stands the evidence is clearly showing he used something to help him and the fact we have logs stating possible Eagle Eye on the time of the case doesn't help his situation at all. This isn't a basis of you triggering the system 500x in a row this is the basis that we have visual evidence of something going on and a log by our system verifying something is going on. So a video disproving it by the player it is in relation to instead of completely neutral people doesn't help the case at all. If anything it is placed into the category you're placing the Eagle Eye detector from your side of the argument.

    In the end I am not even pleased we're discussing this on the forums. I say to everyone else to move it to tickets and if this keeps going with the childish jabs that's exactly where it will end up again.

    The fall of Squizzy

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    7 minutes ago, Squizzy said:

    I have yet to see 1 person who voted yes explain why.
    The difference is that this isn't obvious? It's clear what this is.
    I already proved this to be false when I repeated the EXACT same thing in my video.

    I'm tired of repeating myself everytime you bring up the past, I'm a very suspicious person you should know this. I stopped making tickets on that anyway tbh and why would I make so many reports if I was using it myself lul

    But I don't know why you think there WOULDN'T be people who dislike me voting yes simply because they want me banned. It seems pretty logical to me. But no one has given any reasons yet.

    Your only basing your reasons off a system that isn't 100% and the fact I logged off LOL

    I'm not assuming those who voted yes or no have an opinion of you. I couldn't care less what their agenda is that's exactly why I questioned the poll in the first place.

    The only reason the system is not 100% is due to the fact that it registers a hit based on someone being invisible. This means something like an AOE can trigger it. You used a direct skill not an AOE that's the difference ;)

    6 minutes ago, Nyet said:

    Don't suppose that's hard to tell when a comment comes from someone who dislikes Squizzy and voted YES. "Clearly not a hack but stay banned" and then it gets removed by a GS "as per request" despite being up for about a minute. It's pretty clear by the evidence shown to discredit what you're saying is a hack that it isn't the case.

    Instead you've brought up a system which doesn't have 100% validity, hence shouldn't be used as evidence at all and a GS team that put simply A) Don't like him and will say it's a hack, B) Lack the gameknowledge to make a comprehensible decision or C) Aren't entitled to their own opinion as the other GS are the big bad bosses! :o

    At this point the decision of your GS team are the only legs you have to stand on and any claim you make to say they are unbias is ignorance put plain and simple.

    The same can be said back. At this point your only opinion is a bias one at that. You're blinded by the friendship you have with Squizzy and that's dismissing your opinion. You even said it, it looks suspicious so how can it be avoided? Disproving it, why doesn't those who are defending you disprove it to without your help? More opinions showing it as a flaw in the system that counters the evidence put forward is where your best chance at me taking it serious. You don't go to someone in court "hey disprove it please" because ofc they're going to try and disprove it any means necessary. So why don't you ask members of the community (even people who hate you) to try disprove it as it's the same grounds your video is on.

    The fall of Squizzy

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    So basically everyone who votes yes dislikes him, plain and simple. So why create a poll if this was to be expected? I stated earlier you clearly have been adamant in the past for such reports with less evidence or obviousness. So what's the difference? I recall several tickets by you clearly stating Eagle Eye is being used yet it wasn't viable enough. Yours however shows a different story and it isn't because of who you are.

    Comparing the auto ban feature (that was incomplete and was added by mistake) to a system we've had in place for a while now is pretty stupid. The only reason it is not 100% trustable and why we don't auto ban for it is due to the fact that it registers based on who is hit whilst being invisible this can mean AOE's and anything else. I just find it odd that a direct target skill you used hit someone invis, there are many factors to your video your movement (don't blame lag), you can blame the skill all you want but it doesn't explain your pet or your 2nd repositioning.

    The fall of Squizzy

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    I did not give permission it was more of a "rhetorical suggestion" as I knew it would be made public as is everything involved with yourself. The evidence submitted is enough and even people are saying "it looks suspicious". You've been reported for a lot of sketchy activities over your time here I've mainly pinned it down to how popular you are in this server. We all know how this community has been towards people, but when our system flags you as suspicious at the time of the video (we have a system that identifies the possibility of Eagle Eye being used, it's just not 100% accurate and triggers on other actions unrelated as well) it doesn't look good when evidence is also brought forward.

    You've been caught in the past doing stuff that should have really banned you permanently for abusing systems. But due to how premature the system was and the fact it was caught early and we were able to prevent it I let it slide. So what makes it different now? You risked your $3,000 account back then why not now? You logged off instantly and logged onto an alt when you told me you were arguing with you GF. Logs are there it isn't a case of us making this up or holding it against you, I actually like you as a part of this community. Members who caused a riot promote competition and in return keeps people interested in the game (why don't you ask Hello Kitty Online how it's doing? It's all magical there and no one gives a shit). So you being removed does no benefit for this server infact will probably hinder it a little and I can admit that.

    You know how I am I approach everything fair. I have no reason to hate on anyone despite what people have done towards me and the service. I have a strong opinion and if people take it personally then that's on them but I don't have time for personal hatred when I am trying to run a network. The GS in this team do not have the last say I merely acting on the evidence put forward and as I said in the ticket (the same kind of evidence you are adamant people are hacking in previous reports).

    As for the GS voting I'd appreciate it if they didn't vote on this and I'd appreciate it if alt accounts weren't made to make a situation look better. The outcome of this vote does not sway our decision.

    add act 6 books to a shop

    in Suggestions

    Posted

    15 minutes ago, Ciri995 said:

    Well, there is also people going there with 4+ alts to farm them.. and you know, the boss don't drop if there are more than certain people hitting him (maybe around 8-10 persons? i read about that on official)

    That thing it's unfair.

    It's not that nothing will be done. Just when the time comes and we find it necessary we'll place some focus in it's direction. As it stands there are plenty of areas in the game which, need more attention than this.

    Not saying this should stop all suggestions as we welcome all, but it's just not something the community needs right now.

    add act 6 books to a shop

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    Posted

    Adding items to a shop each time isn't a healthy solution. If books are too hard to gain we could in the future widen the range but right now there is no need they're a big item everyone wants and it's important to have some items harder to get for the longevity of a game.

    New Content from Community

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    6 hours ago, Nayxa said:

    Hey bash, i dont make so many suggestions anymore

    Even if I tried using the old maps which are maybe in the files still, making a new act which brings back the old maps , it could be a good idea but hey i tried and tried to refine this idea but every time your gs comes and says uh too big lets hide it 

    I know they are just trying to make their job , so please calm down 

    Yes anymore yet you still hold the "anymore" timeframe as a reason to hold it against staff members.

     

    Just stop. Trashing against staff doesn't get you any closer to being staff believe me.

    New Content from Community

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    5 hours ago, Nayxa said:

    I tried to make a new act with old maps , still some gs hide it soo. Well, cant blame them i took random fotos to come up with some inspiration, a new unpredictable raid boss ect but nah 

    Amongst the 20 other suggestions you post daily. hmm wonder why a lot get removed. Lack of thought ideas with minimal info expecting us to read your mind but no please let's blame the support...

    Patch v30

    in Patch Notes

    Posted

    Event Changes:
     - Winter Event has now ended!
    NOTE: All Winter Event related items have now been deleted from the game.

     - Rainbow Battle (Beta Season) has now ended!
    The offseason is now active. You will not gain rank points or lose rank points. The idea of the offseason is to allow us to make some major changes to the Rainbow Battle Season (if necessary) to introduce to the upcoming season. You will still be able to obtain the Rainbow Battle Chest during the offseason. Please understand that all rules still apply and we will take action against you if you create a problem for other players during offseason.

    NOTE: Rewards will be given out in next weeks maintenance (14th February 2019).

    General Changes:
     - Champion Level requirement for entering Rainbow Battle has been increased to level 48.
     - Updated the stats of the following items:

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    Necklace of the Forgotten Hero J
        [modify] Increases PvP attack power by 8% -> 4%.

    Ring of the Forgotten Hero S
        [modify] Increases PvP attack power by 5% -> 3%.

    Bracelet of the Forgotten Hero M
        [modify] Increases PvP attack power by 5% -> 3%.

    Honourable: Robber Gang's Golden Armour
        [removed] There is a 80% chance that damage from ranged attacks is reduced by 20%.
        [added] Damage from critical hits is reduced by 40%.

    Robber Gang's Golden Armour
        [removed] There is a 100% chance that damage from ranged attacks is reduced by 20%.
        [added] Damage from critical hits is reduced by 40%.

    Robber Gang's Shining Armour
        [removed] There is a 10% chance that damage from ranged attacks is reduced by 100%.
        [removed] There is a 10% chance that damage from melee attacks is reduced by 100%.
        [added] Defence power in PvP is increased by 8%.

    Honourable: Robber Gang's Golden Robe
        [removed] There is a 80% chance that damage from melee attacks is reduced by 10%.
        [added] Damage from critical hits is reduced by 30%.

    Berios' Crystal Robe
        [removed] There is a 100% chance that damage from melee attacks is reduced by 8%.
        [added] Damage from critical hits is reduced by 25%.

    Leather Boots
        [modify] Magic attacks below level (+5) cause 15% -> 5% less damage.

     - Increased the sell price to 30,000,000 gold for the following items:

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    Luminiel's Shining Crossbow
    Abyssal Lorten's Spell Gun
    Broken Krem's Left Blade
    Broken Krem's Right Blade
    Seli-Lusha's Branch of Light
    Azrael's Wings
    Brave Shares' Heavy Armour
    Mukraju's Robe
    Leather Armour of Silver Soul Glacernon

     - The following runes will no longer expire when un-equipped or logged out.

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    Lightning Rune
    Wave Rune
    Cloud Rune
    Wind Rune
    Fire Rune

    NOTE: This may only affect new created Runes, any existing ones may still work as their original way and expire as normal.

     - Increased price of Needle to 12,000 gold.
     - You can now purchase Needle from Bash NPC in NosVille.

    Bug Fixes:
     - Fixed a bug causing the server to crash.
     - Fixed a bug with messages in Mini-Game Channel.
     - Fixed bug where Magic Sleigh and Magic Sleigh with Red-nosed Reindeer could not be added to a Mount Bead.

    Some little things for the next rbb season

    in Suggestions

    Posted

    5 hours ago, Webster said:

    Hi guys,

    with the beta rbb season almost over (finally), i'd like to suggest some little things to make the following seasons more enjoyable.

    I've got quite some experience now in rbb and dont get me wrong, i love it, and overall it is almost perfect as it is.

    1. Make buffs visible again, its really annoying that you cant see which buffs you got after you died once.
    2. I dont know if its intended, but with recovery armours you can heal back to full instantly as soon as you enter your spawnzone. Also pretty frustrating in some situations. I think the same recovery rate for every player would be more enjoyable as recovery armours are not designed for the (fast) hp recovery of the spawnzone. Just way too abusable.
    3. Reduce the duration of the respawn-buff by a little bit. Its okay and needed to have a little bit of a safe time after respawning, but its not okay to be able to run to the middle after respawn and still get some attacks out with that insane damage buff.
    4. Make rbb c48+ or c50 only. I think many ppl can confirm its an instaloss when you got a player below c48 in your team. 95% of the time players below c48 still use equip just for exp'ing, many got no books, etc etc. The list is long. I know these problems can occur with c48+ players aswell, but the chance is way lower. The gap between c30, c38 and c48+ is just too high.
    5. Fix the unfreezing problem. I actually like that you got to be a little bit closer to the frozen player now, but the unfreezing animation shouldnt work outside of the allowed unfreezing range. Its just confusing for some players which dont understand why the player they want to unfreeze wont get free just because they are "out of range".

    I think so far its pretty objective and most players will agree with that.

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    I'd like to continue with some more subjective things which i'm not really sure about if and how it should be done.

    • Make players actually lose some points after losing a game. Right now you can see players with negative w/l-ratio in diamond. Some kind of progress is good, but you should be at least some kind of successful in your games to reach the good ranks/leagues.

    An example (currently rank #13):

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    • Make mandras more rewarding. In 90% of my games they werent even touched once. My idea would be that the mandra gives a different buff depending on the killing team being in the winning/losing team. So if you kill it while you are in the losing team (less total points than the enemy team) you get a really strong buff to gain some momentum and comeback potential (e.g. 2-3 movement speed and 10-20% pvp attack and def for 1 minute). If you are in the winning team while killing the mandra you get the same buffs we got right now.

    Thats it for now, im really looking forward for some constructive feedback especially for the second part of my suggestion, please always explain why you would change something.

    Some nice feedback here, thanks a lot I will go deeper into some of these requests during the pre-season.

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