Sofía Jimena Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 I have no idea which is more useful in PvE and PvP between DEF piercing or VOID piercing. I don't know if it is advisable to use DEF piercing in PvE and VOID piercing in PvP. ¿Could someone please explain this to me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norleras Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 (edited) Def piercing is like a budget version of Void piercing, in my opinion. More ideal to go for void piercing between the two Edited October 12 by Norleras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofía Jimena Posted October 12 Author Report Share Posted October 12 12 hours ago, Norleras said: Def piercing is like a budget version of Void piercing, in my opinion. More ideal to go for void piercing between the two If DEF piercing is done in PvE or PvP, ¿Would VOID still work on mobs and players of the other faction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norleras Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 Both work in pvp and pve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade Posted October 13 Report Share Posted October 13 Well technically mobs can have pretty much any stat that players can have, thus this really depends on each mob. I would though say that most mobs are more def-based. However, I have not done an extensive test on this and not 100% sure that piercing even works on them. Those jewels and stats were introduced later on and were all meant to be more PvP based. You have to take into consideration how the stats are applied and what affects what. There is a forum post that goes into great detail to explain them. Including formulas, like this.. Reduced Physical Damage = (Physical Damage) * (100 - %VOID) / 100 - DEF It will essentially tell you what your reduced damage is based on your stats and that of the incoming damage. However it does not then take into account the piercing which is also figured like these. Reduced DEF = DEF * (100 - %DEF Pierce) / 100 Reduced %VOID = %VOID * (100 - %VOID Pierce) / 100 Reduced %Chakra Resistance = %Chakra Resistance * (100 - %CH Pierce) / 100 So depending what the starting value of DEF or VOID is on a player or mob and how much you can lower it before the calculations are done to find actual damage applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofía Jimena Posted October 13 Author Report Share Posted October 13 4 hours ago, Jade said: Well technically mobs can have pretty much any stat that players can have, thus this really depends on each mob. I would though say that most mobs are more def-based. However, I have not done an extensive test on this and not 100% sure that piercing even works on them. Those jewels and stats were introduced later on and were all meant to be more PvP based. You have to take into consideration how the stats are applied and what affects what. There is a forum post that goes into great detail to explain them. Including formulas, like this.. Reduced Physical Damage = (Physical Damage) * (100 - %VOID) / 100 - DEF It will essentially tell you what your reduced damage is based on your stats and that of the incoming damage. However it does not then take into account the piercing which is also figured like these. Reduced DEF = DEF * (100 - %DEF Pierce) / 100 Reduced %VOID = %VOID * (100 - %VOID Pierce) / 100 Reduced %Chakra Resistance = %Chakra Resistance * (100 - %CH Pierce) / 100 So depending what the starting value of DEF or VOID is on a player or mob and how much you can lower it before the calculations are done to find actual damage applied. What I'm also trying to write is if the DEF apart from reducing 1 of ATK depending on how much DEF you have, the VOID would be the percentage of the ATK reduction in PvE and PvP. That depending on how much DEF and VOID is haved, it will drastically reduce the ATK in PvE and PvP. But if the DEF is 0 and you have 9,000 VOID (90% of VOID), ¿Will the VOID still reduce the percentage of the ATK in PvE and PvP depending on how much DEF you have? If the DEF is at 0 and the VOID is at 9,000, ¿Would that make the VOID useless in PvE and PvP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade Posted October 14 Report Share Posted October 14 I am not even remotely sure what you are saying here. Nether will reduce the attack they both increase it, because they both lower the targets def or void by piercing thru a certain percentage of it. Think of them as lowering a DEF stat or VOID by that much.. Look over the formulas I shown it will explain in math what happens. It does not affect your def or void unless the player or mob uses it against you... Now if we were to give a Boss VOID or DEF Pierce or something yes it would lower your DEF or VOID. Just like a straight debuff for a AOE would lower it, think like Tartatrus there is a EVA debuff in the boss rooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade Posted October 14 Report Share Posted October 14 (edited) Ok after reading this again, I think you are trying to say will the persons VOID still reduce it even if zero DEF. The answer is yes.... As it is figured as a reduction in damage in the formula. Reduced Physical Damage = (Physical Damage) * (100 - %VOID) / 100 - DEF Person receives less damage cause the attack sent in is lowered by X amount first by VOID and then Y amount by DEF It will not be though affected by your DEF or VOID it is their DEF n VOID that matters on incoming attacks. Edited October 14 by Jade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xF4T4Lx Posted October 22 Report Share Posted October 22 Don't waste time explaining to him, if you put a banana in front of him to draw, he draws a watermelon :v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xF4T4Lx Posted October 22 Report Share Posted October 22 "piercing" is for pvp no pve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofía Jimena Posted October 23 Author Report Share Posted October 23 5 hours ago, xF4T4Lx said: "piercing" is for pvp no pve That doesn't convince me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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