naru

agreed

I personally had never a problem to sell stuff or searching for ppl to do trials even if they talk about nonsense in peer or worldchat. Ppl trash talk in eden trash in world chat since the game is released. And after peer chat release, the trash talk became even worse but you can still use these chats to trade/sell/search for ppl.

yea i mostly agree with this. But i guess it wont happen so what ever ill just wait for awaken server to be active again and pay there money for what ever is in the mystery boxes or selling vgn points to other player. - How i personal feel and think rn. Now to the discussion Its just frustrating to come on after a long day and start farming in eden for idk how many hours like its my second job. Idk why ppl would not want free rewards for buying vgn i mean jordan said that the tiered spender could be used for rare items which is nice and idk why it would make it pay to win i mean ppl are buying for example sublime stones for 10-12k ea. Why would a tiered spender kill the economy i mean if there was a sublime stone in there and you would sell it, then it would be 10-12k worth too or even less cuz there would be more ppl selling it? Player with a fulltime job dont have the time to farm gold get rank 1-5 and get their sublime stones every month. Farming gold for 10% stones takes alot of time too. It would be actually less frustrating if the % increase after using a stone would NOT disapear after closing the fortification window because youre out of stones. That would mean you can come after work on for like 2h farm maybe 2k gold if you need to. Buy stones with that gold and even if they all fail and you reach lets say 14% succesrate. Then you could keep going next day until the weapon goes up. That would make it less frustrating but rn you have to use a big amount of safety stones and need alot of tries until you get the fort you want or you need alot of luck otherwise you lose the succesrate you reached and need to start at 11% again. So maybe we could after using 30 coral sublime safety stones and fail all of them keep atleast the succesrate for our next try. Ofc it feels maybe "unfair" that ppl who actually pay for this game get their stuff faster done against casuals who play 24/7 and dont have the money to get the stuff they want to have out of the tiered spender. But if they hadnt a problem to farm and then spend the money on stuff which other players got with ecs from altar then why is there a problem with stuff you get out of tiered spender? The only diff between altar and tiered spender is that tiered spender is for cash only. Ppl could also buy tiered spender ranks in game. There shouldnt be a problem to write "wtb rank 8 tiered spender" if they want something special out of it we did that in offical server too for example. Non cash players which have the time to farm can also buy vgn points vs gold like in awaken server and play the tiered spender. I mean there are options to get the stuff out of it thats why i dont understand why ppl think its to pay to win. You pay 60-80g for ecs which are only available with real money and prime costumes are only available in altar too, for altar you need ecs which means altar items are cash items too and none cries or criticsize that because you can buy it from other players if you dont cash. That would be possible with tiered spender too, you can buy it from other players thats why i dont get the big problem why it should be not more rewarding for cash player to cash. Dont take this as crying or something like that i just want to discuss abit in this thread to understand the mind of the ppl which dont want a tiered spender. Just want to know why "No" to free items you get for paying into the game. Thank you in advance for your answers and thoughts.

You could make the safetystones NT so its more rewarding to cash and just make the costumes and pet and the other stuff out of tiered spender tradeable. That way the stones would keep the same price in game and ecs too. I personally work or start working soon again cuz corona and played the last months alot cuz the time was obviously there if you dont need to work. As someone who doesnt work yes its easy to just not to cash because you have alot of time. I sometimes just farmed 10h highlands and made 10-11k gold on one day, if i wanted too. But you need to think about the ppl who actually work 8h+ a day then they come lets say at 4pm or 5pm or even later and dont want to or dont have the time to farm 5h to buy 10 safety stones for example. If you have the money and you want to cash why not making it more rewarding? People who cannot afford to cash like SenorBernd wrote here should just dont do it then? I mean you could cash in awakening too and it was way more rewarding then here tho. Ppl who cannot afford the money for drugs buy them in rl too. If youre characteristic weak and do stuff you shouldnt do like spending your money in a casino or in a video game then its not the fault of the game or the casino its basically your own fault. Just as example btw dont feel offended here. Yes you can sell the ecs you get from cashing now but in my personal opinion its just not rewarding enough for the money you put in the game. I hope that wasnt to harsh again from my side i just wanted to make an example why it would be better to make cashing more rewarding.

rank 1. 30 ecs rank 2. 25 ecs , 20 warstones , bankslot rental , heroictrait tome, makeover cosmetics set rank 3. 1 corona stardust lv X , 1 alpha costume , 30 ecs NT , 5 shattergems rank 4. 2 alpha pets for pdps and mdps (chooseable), 30 ecs NT, 5 safety stones , 2 lucky safety stones rank 5. 5 viridian lucky safety stones , 30 ecs NT , 1 alpha mount , 5 chisel lv X , 5 CP charms lv 1, 5 EXP charms lv 1, 5 loot charms lv 1 rank 6. 10 lucky safety stones, 40 ecs NT , 1 prime mount , 5 chisel lv X, 30 slot backpack rank 7. 5 CP charms lv 2, 5 EXP charms lv 2 , 5 Loot charms lv 2 , exp blue gear cloth/heavy/light 1-30 rank 8. 15 corona essence lv X , 10 corona stardust lv X , 5 Corona heartflame lv X , 15 fortification reset scrolls rank 9. 1 prime head costume , 1 prime body costume , 1 prime face costume ,1 prime special costume, 1 pdps prime pet , 1 mdps prime pet rank 10. 1 2h prime weapon , 1 1h prime weapon , 20 ultramarine lucky SS, 15 coral lucky SS , 1 halycon ultramarine SS 1 special rank for ppl who pay abit more rank 11. gear fortification +10 box ( 2 coral sublime stones , 2 ultramarine sublime stones , 6 viridian sublime stones, 10 fortification reset scrolls) or 250 ecs NT Saw under few threads that ppl didnt make a clear suggestion for a tiered spender so i thought i make a suggestion. since until rank 4 in this example are just trash items i would suggest Rank 1-3 : all items can be choosed Rank 4-6 : 3 items can be choosed Rank 6-8 : 2 items can be choosed rank 9-11 : 1 item can be choosed The spender could be filled like the one on offical server just by buying stuff with vgn points. If you also need a suggestion for the price idk 1-10 = 100 dollar and 11 maybe 175 dollar i think if something like that would get released then you guys should choose the price.

would it be possible to gives us the old casting animation for buffs with 2 1h weapons in awaken server too?

senor if ppl would respond to suggestions normally without insulting ppl and im talking rn about everyone the gs/gm included, then ppl would not start agruing or answering toxic back. If you get treated like shit, ofc ppl start being toxic . i agree there with tuti they just get back what they give us pretty much.

alright knowing that the animations will get reverted is enough for me

thats what i just wrote i just wanted a confirmation from jordan

What does that mean exactly "working on it". Does that mean we will have some day the old animations with 2 1h weapons as mage for example ? In our server we lost this animations after the reawakening where the first awa classes came out they added the double jump and gave us this ugly casting animations so idk what exactly was broken

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXwV2w7uJZ8&list=RDQMlFt9i5jvMU8&index=2 for caster like illu,mage,warlock I would like to suggest to give us the old casting animation back we had 7 years ago before they released the reawakening. Characters with 2 1h weapon costumes had in my opinion a prettier casting animation and staff user had a prettier casting animation too. I dont know how much the animation change concerns the pdps classes and their animations i just know that the pdps classes or non cast classes in general had a different buff animation with 2 1h weapon costumes or 2 1h weapons that looked better too. The animations know are not that nice as back then when we didnt had the reawakening update on german server. Take a close look at the attack and cast animations of ppl with staff and 2 1h weapon costumes, so you understand better what i mean.

you can as pdps thief or MA one combo a mdps if youre geared enough and stun them. Against zumi tanks you could use kenny t from lv 50 trials to remove the heal buff cuz this heal canceling thing jordan is talking about, idk never happens in 3v3 atleast when i play against zumis. There are also a bunch of other trophies which can help you to stun lock a mdps and kill it like mori mori mocus or robin t from normal manor or Charles t from lv 50 vileshark trial. But if you have +10 stuff and enough critr you should be able to one combo a mdps without those trophies. Pdps engi can also be annoying and kill ppl in this level cap pretty fast if youre geared enough. I would say thiefs are the most toxic pdps in pvp if you want to play pdps that badly.

that happens not only in 3v3. I have that on normal maps like highlands too and in any other aspects of the game no matter which map it allways randomly happens.

I think to many different ppl from different countries/time zones are playing this game. There will allways someone who will badly influenced by the pvp times. For ppl from german sever its 01:00 am or 02:00 am (second round). I mean i just go sleep and wake up 10 min before gvg play 30 min and then i go sleep again its weekend this shouldnt be a problem.

You can join 10v10 and play classes like bard lv 60 and buff your party or maybe templar for cc. I recommend 10v10 for ppl without gold gear or orange gear you get 18 honor stars and 3 class medals for each win. My "ungeared" friends go 10v10 too and farm them by just supporting the team with cc or buffs.

i want to hear a explanation from jordan. Ik that you can use samu without the change too but thats not what meant with my post.

Can you explain me why samurai has to work in pvp ? You said every class has its place so why changing the aoe so it can be used in pvp too ? The samu player base could just accept the fact that their beloved class is a pve class just like engi. I mean i know the samu aoe was when they released it like this too but seeing you telling us that it wouldnt work in pvp if its not like this, is kinda funny cuz you said not every class needs to be pvp viable.

He did that because its classic sky. Bard aoe was at the beginning insta cast and samurai aoe was at the beginning like that too. What ever he wont change it i give up on this. He acts like old ee was perfect and every change would kill the classic experience.

Jordan i think that you think that i was passive aggresive because of my last post. Lets be real just because i wrote that i was confused about your choice not releasing luminary means for you that i try to shoot against you? Idk how you read my posts and interpret what im writing thats honestly not my problem. Passive aggresive were my posts about this server being the biggest rng server in the eden history yes but not me being confused about the luminary thing. If you read stuff and inerpret to much into it like this person is raging rn thats your problem i wasnt raging or something like that when i wrote that. And about the hammer thing yes theyre useless until lv 70 and same with heal grimoire. All i can say ive tried engi as mdps in pvp and the biggest problem was the target aoe because you just run after ppl and your cast gets interrupted even if you have insta cast which is easy to get with highland stuff. And making the skills insta cast wasnt my suggestion so dont write like i wanted that. I think you read my name here and your personal feelings against me after my post with the rng stuff just overtake everytime and make you think im shooting against you. ANYWAYS I think that my suggestion would not make the class over powerd because the main thing it would change are the aoes being setable like the mage snow storm the actual gameplay of engi would be the same you use oilbomb and then black explosive. Only thing which would not happen anymore is running after ppl when they run back in their backline while you cast a aoe. Iron superman has to much cooldown even with the glyph you need to wait 40 seconds to be usefull again. And about the matk buff you already wrote that wouldnt have much impact then i believe you i guess? And why not making more classes pvp viable ? No Engi is trash in pvp none literally none would say i preffer a engi in my party than (Mage,Ma,MDPS Cleric, illu, Heal cleric, support bard,templar) and that other classes are even more trash then engi is not a secret like you said in your answer. There are many other classes which are just trash because they get outdamaged by other classes. Idk why would you not try to make classes work better in pvp and pve. There are so many classes which are nice to look at but at the same time just trash pvpwise and this server is so pvp active so why not trying to do something? AND NO IM NOT AGGRESIVE GET THIS OUT OF YOUR HEAD.

idk why he shoots so hard about me being confused why luminary isnt available at lv 1 on this server. I just mentioned that i was confused i didnt say release the class now. And the mcrit dmg sets are useless because there is no class which can properly use them. If engineer would get a little rework more ppl would use mcrit dmg sets. I have insta cast on my engineer after using one or two aoes the only thing which makes it shitty to play are the points i already wrote in my first post here. The vocalbomb on bard has to much cooldown and doesnt deal enough dmg with earthshock to make it relevant. The only light mcrit dmg set using class rn COULD be engineer.

that was an example jordan pls relax. I was talking about mcrit dmg sets being useless cuz there is not really a class which can use them and yes ik halfkin is a good dps with blue classes but only HALFKIN what about the other races without a op cd reset racial skill ? Anyways this suggestion wasnt about the luminary its about engi and i just added that mcrit dmg light sets are useless cuz there is no class using them.

i do like to add the tiered spender as suggestion too :3

The mdps light sets (with mcrit dmg) are totally useless until lv 75 cap because there is no luminary and none will play bard and spam earthshock as mdps. Thats why i was confused why jordan removed the Luminary, instead of releasing him as starter class. All mdps mcrit dmg light sets lost their purpose cuz no class can use them properly. There is no reason to use bard as mdps and engi doesnt work in pvp unfortunaly which is kinda sad. Giving few classes abit love would be nice. In awaken server we could use all classes except Rakshasa for something and everything there had its purpose you know. Well demon tamer is trash too in pvp cuz the pet is one shot unlike the kage pet of demon summoner, anyways it would be really nice to give engi abit love so we can actually use the light mage set and have more varations for team compositions.

MDPS ENGI Hey guys i wanted to suggest a little class rework on engineer. The class is nice as PDPS in its human form but the mecha form is just good to farm stuff and not really nice in pvp since mages are just way better in dealing aoe dmg. I tried MDPS after jordan showed me Deraks youtube video, where he ran as MDPS engi with a +2 gun DD and i was pretty impressed. His dmg against monsters were good for someone with just a +2 weapon he reached around 10-20k + triple hit. I tried that in this server too and i deal that much on monsters in dungeon with my +2 102% gold lv 60 gun too BUT it doesnt work that well in pvp. In pvp ppl obviously run around in teamfights mages run back and when they get low or any dps in general runs ofc back to their heals when they get low thats how pvp work, if you get low switch to shield and run away. My problem with MDPS engi was if i target someone and want to use my point and click aoes on the enemy AND this enemy runs in that moment back, the cast of my engi breaks up and he runs after the target and since in PVP everyone keeps moving around its very difficult to spam blackexplosive. As mage you dont have to target someone you just spam snow storm and if you have enough cast speed you press all 20 seconds Fusion reaction and deal tons of dmg which means you dont run after someone if that person runs away. As mage you can just spam the aoe where ever you want and exactly that would be awesome for MDPS engi too. I know alot of you guys want the classic experience but i dont think reworking on classes or making them better wont kill the "classic experience" you get in this server. My buff/rework suggestions are : Give the iron superman buff more duration than 30 sec cuz the cooldown even with glyph is 1:10 min which means you can only be abit usefull all 40 seconds. Make black explosive and Oilbomb like the Bard aoe/Mage aoe/Cleric aoe setable so you dont run after your targets and interrupt your cast. Maybe make out of the triple hit (if oilbomb is on the target) a double hit so its not that overpowerd to deal the whole time triple hit aoe dmg. And maybe give super iron man a tiny matk buff at the same time since the matk of guns are to low. I know the dmg against monsters is fine but player are way more tanky than monsters so maybe giving iron man a matk buff with +X matk depending on the level would fix the problem with the gun matk abit. Here is the link to the youtube vid so you can see that it actually deals dmg and mention that its only a +2 gun : I think having more options in pvp than just a party with 4 or 3 mages , 1 mdps cleric ,2 heal clerics ,1 templar , 1 illu , 1 bard and maybe a MA would make the game more exiting. Even if we are here on a classic server doesnt mean we have to do everything exactly like aeria did you guys can do it better i guess. Anyways tell me your thoughts about that suggestion and if youre a random watch pls the vid before saying that mdps engi cant deal dmg (i know jordan saw the vid cuz he sent it to me few weeks ago).

yea youre right its allways rng but classic server is RNG on a another level XD and even if that would kill the economy then they could just let the altar how it is and make like i suggested mystery boxes with stones OR a tiered spender for vgn points i spended alot of money for vendetta and dont get me wrong i dont regret that but after seeing how useless it is to spend money in classic server cuz i literally didnt get anything and yea thats my own bad rng. I just wont spend money anymore and before jordan or bash says now "we dont care if you dont spend money, many others still spend money for vgn" yes ik but i wont do it anymore and i dont care what others do thats not my business tho.