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Hello, I wanted to bring attention to how much space is currently being taken by materials from all of the different content we currently have, and possibly suggest a solution to help with that. Bank image example. Not counting the unusual number of souls/sparkle stacks, there's about 4-5 rows full of materials. Other X-Legend games offer a material bank, which have separate bag slots and everything, and functions account-wide. I understand this may not be possible, so another option could possibly be the archive. There are already items in the archive that allow you to deposit stacks (example, Organic Juice stacks up to 100 in archive.) One valid argument to this is it's too beneficial for a player with multiple alts on one account, and will allow them to progress one character too quickly. A compromise to this could be only allowing untradeable items from older content (such as HoO, old Abyss, Sky Tower to Daylight Forest, etc.) to be added, while allowing tradeable things from newer content such AT/DF essences, Deep Abyss essences. I guess this would also somewhat function as a possible catch up mechanic for those forms of content, though definitely would not be the majority use for it. This could also work for Reality potions, which aren't used in any new content anymore, stones, scrolls, etc. Probably a lot more possibilities as well. Would be nice to have though, and frees up a lot of space for other things. Thanks!

Personally I like damage variance, it exists in just about every game. I feel like in a way it adds flavor to the game and keeps it from just being a stale numbers system that you can calculate. Agreed that having these changed to consistent numbers would make testing much easier though. If it would be possible to make this map-specific and implement it just into Sakura Island or something, I think that would be a very useful function and serve as the "training dummy" that has been requested so many times. Strongly agree, I have been in favor of removing smoke bombs in PvP for years. They are still used outside of PvP, so it doesn't kill the item or anything. Character-augmenting items like poison powders, etc. would be better as client-side, toggleable effects I think. Playing a class like GK and being on an obnoxiously large mount can be annoying. Agree that immunity should be applied normally. Additionally, these should function similar to stuns, where if it's overlapped once immunity is immediately given during the second CC. Disagree. Despite being uncontrollable RNG, some classes rely on these (Assassin was mentioned) to be able to fight. Without CC certificates, Assassin exists just as a capper that ends up outclassed by Annihilator. Stat value requirement changes would have a huge impact on PvE, which as previously said is an extremely vast majority of the game. If there was a way to make this exclusive to PvP then I might think differently but I don't think this is a good idea currently (could also change when we get Lv125 armor sets). POD nerfs I don't really agree with either. Impartial to this, but the result would be everyone switching to Stun/KD enchants depending on what CC their class doesn't have. This is an extremely fine line and probably really hard to approach. I think that damage reduction particularly in a party vs. party setting is too strong. Because of that, the first step I think should be taken is support class-based sources of damage reduction. However this would have to be baby steps, probably tested over the course of multiple weeks with real PvP. Another approach to this could be looking at the PvP Damage Taken -X% stats on the 115 Abyss armor sets as well. Very good post though, well thought-out suggestions with reasons and solutions for everything. I hope more can contribute as well

This would be cool, like customizable starstones.

+1, Agreed that having incentive to do it post-completion is much more healthy for the content. o7

Just my own personal thoughts, not supporting or defending anything based on any kind of bias, but I'll comment on the ones I mainly agree with. At this rate, that puts a stack of 999 Demonic MP Potions at 11-12 hours to obtain. This is splitting drops between two characters, but even 6 hours if you were alone (for 0 gain presumably) is a substantially long time for one stack of MP potions. A stack of Dragonside MP Potions can realistically be obtained in an hour while splitting. I mentioned it when we first got DV, but even getting a cape is 70% of the cost one MP potion stack requires, and even those feel too high. We really just don't have a good source of MP potions anymore. Palace of Dreams was a good source of Lv100 potions, DSR was a good source of 110s. Realistically DV would be the best solution for MP potions, at this point even Lv120 ones would be better than nothing. Now there's like a draught for MP potions right now between them missing in the current battle map/the battle map secondary potions being ridiculously overpriced. GvG reward box is definitely due for an update, winning GvG to get a statue back from Lv65 cap serves no purpose. I think it's still too early to receive Elemental Battlefield statues from these as the content is still relatively new, but I think the same GA box that gives a Bash/Vivi/Jordan would be fine. Most guilds still use these anyway. That being said, Elemental Battlefield statues are still too rare/annoying to get for 99% of the guilds in the game. As it is, this content isn't even worth the trouble for most people considering the time commitment it requires. During the anniversary, we received double the Flame stones from the reward box, and player activity for this expedition shot up significantly. I think making this a permanent adjustment not only makes maintaining these statues more realistic for the vast majority of guilds in the game, but even increases interest/desire to do this content and will result in more activity. Some way to guarantee at least 1 essence a day, or even some form of progress towards one like fragments, should exist. I've gone 4 days now with no Angelic essence drop and it feels pretty bad. Sure it's all up to luck and there's the potential to get however many in a day, but every single person I know running these dungeons daily all have a ton of every resource except essences. So if not a daily or some guaranteed way to get an essence, then maybe fragments or something in the boxes we receive mailed like HoO. It wouldn't take much considering there's only 2 essences. 1 fragment per box, 6 fragments to make an essence, 1 essence per day. Or maybe add a trade the materials from boxes at the NPC to buy them. This wasn't addressed but I think it should exist, every other battle map has a way to portal stone in.

Thanks for the reply! Regarding 2, we've had the 120 potions for a long time, just had to fuse for them. 120 scrolls have also been available for a while, just not very easy to get. Also wanted to add that running right now is rough in terms of sustainability due to the amount of MP potions used, even with Lumi's MP cert. 3. I think this one was misunderstood, the cape comparison was to the cost of MP potions being 50 for a stack of potions vs. 35 for a cape. DSR comparison was the cost of getting a stack of DSR pots (10) vs DV pots (50). The tokens needed in DSR to get potions were also easier to obtain due to the green item drops (forgot their name) being able to be turned in (even though they were kinda bothersome to keep bag space for). 4. That's understandable. The 10-15 minute cooldown captcha we have now should help with that though, no? Could realistically lower it even more on that map and people would still be fine with it. I know this is probably the most requested thing for our server, and just in peer chat alone multiple people ask about a pod spot every single day. It would be really huge for both PvP and PvE players, I personally know inactive people that don't want to PvP due to the prep time it takes. As an alternative, it could be an instance instead with like a 0/5 or 0/10 limit to avoid bots abusing it. Another option at one of the dungeon portals or something. I think Water Falls has a dungeon NPC relatively close to the teleport. This locks it to a high map/level requirement, which can avoid bots. Thank you again for the consideration!

Hihi, thanks for new patch! Just got a few ideas that I think would be nice to have, as well as the reasoning behind them. • Demonic Valley daily quest to kill bosses and turn in inside the map, like the other battle maps. Reward can be one Polished Emerald. Currently only ways to teleport in are portal stone via quest if you didn't turn it in or link your soul to the Soul Guardian, this allows players who already turned in their main quest a way to portal stone in like we do for every other battle map. • Add Lv120 HP/MP potions and Lv120 Power/Guard scrolls to the mobs in Demonic Valley, just like DSR has. This was a big source of potions before, would be really nice to have it in the new map as well. • Lower cost of Demonic HP/MP potions, 50 for a stack is kind of a lot. Capes are only 35. DSR potions were only 10 for a stack, and the DSR tokens were easier/quicker to farm than emeralds are. • POD spot like what VGN Classic has here. Fallmyst is dead now, and even when it wasn't it was still not very fun or engaging to do, and often contested during busy PvP times. New cap would be a perfect time to introduce a similar type of spot, and would probably increase PvP activity/enjoyment if prepping wasn't as much of a chore. That's all I got for now, thanks for reading!

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I think the really nice part about DS is the card rewards don't really limit me in any way except for formulas, which are quite generous. Everything I need is given to me via guaranteed boxes for killing bosses, or a daily quest that I only need to complete twice for an entire set. In CC, I'm limited by formula bags from cards, sparkles from cards, and the daily quest reward. The issue with getting DSR boxes is it almost feels like a punishment rather than a reward, as it could have been something beneficial but is instead pretty much junk. I guess that's the point of it, but it definitely feels bad considering most people do struggle in fights like these. Gonna go a little off-topic here, but the daily quest reward is the biggest issue in my opinion, as everything else isn't really too bad. These are my CC items currently, x700 of the green daily token and x1 of the gold daily token. This is with turning in the daily every single day since release. I have the sparkles for half a set, more than enough boss tokens for every set I don't have completed already, but only 1 daily token. By the time I have enough to make a set, I'll probably have the sparkles for 2 sets. Some quick solutions I can think of that would be nice are: Double the daily quest, x24 greens for x2 golds. Add a daily to each boss (similar to HoO's dailies for each dungeon) with a box that has a chance to grant either a Gold daily token, a formula box for that boss, a token for that boss, sparkles, etc. I realize everyone doesn't share the same problem I have and a lot of people are limited on formula boxes, so this solution would help them as well. Adding Zodiac tokens to the cards. Trade in the constellation stones for formula boxes or something. Personally I like the second one the most because it has a solution for everyone's issues with CC, makes the player still feel rewarded even if they end up getting mostly DSR boxes (which does happen quite a bit), and would bring back one of the nice things HoO had. Either way, I got way too many green tokens pls help.

Just wanted to add my opinion as well and agree with some ideas that I thought were really nice! I think demonfire immunity is a good thing, I think the boss's HP is fine. This has sadly been the case for the last few bosses, nobody wants to do them because they're just too annoying. This is honestly just fixed by making the skillset basic. It's an event boss meant for everybody, I don't think anyone would really mind if it was just basic attacks and an occasional AoE. No buff removal, no debuff removal, no transformations, just something simple. Keep the HP (even raise if it doesn't remove buffs/debuffs), still gives people time to poke it. This is also a really good idea! Assuming the rewards are all NT, this doesn't really hurt anyone. It allows new players, undergeared players, healer mains, etc. to get just as much out of a community event boss as everyone else. It's a little sad that something that we're supposed to look forward to as part of a holiday celebration is dead content after everyone's achievements are done the first day. Looking forward to the next one! /o/

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I just don't think that's a good way to go about it. If they provoke during foxes are up because they don't have aggro, a healer gets aggro and people will usually die. I've seen parties take like 10+ minutes on Sakuya just because a tank wants to spam provoke, when a good one shouldn't have to. Didn't mean more details, moreso meant organization/formatting-wise. Regardless, nice to finally have a guide out and I appreciate it either way.

I really disagree with this, as it often causes so many more issues than needed, especially when spammed. Provoke only resets malice, doesn't put the Executioner on top. If used poorly, it can easily cause wipes/aggro issues. It at most should be used situationally, if the person who has aggro is the one who needs to CC the boss (having to think is hard, I know). In my experience you're much better off either maintaining it normally with the help of buffs like Declaration of Anger, having the BM hold back at the start if your Executioner is a bit weaker so they can establish aggro properly, or having them use smoke bombs to reset their personal aggro. Other than that, outside of it looking a little rough, the rest of the information is useful to players who haven't done Abyss and it's very nice of you to make a guide for them!

Not sure which game you are trying to download, but the same solution should work for all of them.

Only one of ours there is Stardust. You have alts in Ainz and Awakened, two of the three blue team guilds. If anything you're manipulating yourself with us.

Any class works fine, the ones with AoE are a bit faster. Magician is probably the easiest though, just run around and Snow Storm groups of mobs.

Hi, try copy + pasting the download link into your browser. http://cdn.vendettagn.com/vgn/EEV_Install_v1.rar

Assuming you've been coupled for at least 24 hours, once you purchase the Marriage Keepsake from the item mall (optional, don't need it but it gives you a ring that gives you +2% all stats), you take it to <Wedding Officiant>Myles in Aven to reserve a wedding spot. You only need one for both you and your couple. After reserving it, you can go in and start mailing out invitations to anyone you might want to invite. Once 10 minutes of prep time has passed, people can start joining your wedding and you can begin the ceremony by talking to the NPC inside. After it's started, follow Myles down the walkway and it's pretty self-explanatory from there. If you have the Marriage Keepsake from the item mall, there's an NPC you can talk to outside of the ceremony area to start an event where everyone can kill some mobs, and then claim a guest bag. There are screenshot areas, firework shops and a bunch of other cool stuff to play around with in there if it's your first time. Enjoy, and early congratulations! ^^

I don't think this is necessarily true, many classes have been reworked into a better state than it's original (Executioner, Glacier Knight, Blood Knight, etc.) That being said, I'm sure it's a lot of effort to rework every weak class. Having "PvP DMG Dealt/Reduction" stats being specific to classes feels like a bit of a band-aid fix though. As Jordan said, in actual PvP, Gravity Manipulator is still a good class. I've used it as a solo player not that long ago and had pretty good results with it. Could still get kills, could still cap crystals decently well. Even in a party PvP setting, with the proper setup it can still be pretty strong. The class is far from bad. It's not running around one-shotting geared players anymore, but overall it really feels like it's at a healthy level currently. Once you progress further into the game, I think you'll find that the class does much better than you might realize at first glance. ^^

That's not what I'm saying at all. Specifically in PvP I've only really seen you on Assassin since you were mostly solo, which you admitted to. So I don't really see the issue? I'm not saying you shouldn't play it, I'm saying you did and it's what I've seen you play. Didn't tell you to do anything. Simply said that mdps isn't as useless as you make it out to be. I never admitted to playing them, only said that they were played. Never said that once. I only implied that being in a bigger guild will give you a chance to play other classes that aren't typically oriented for a solo player, like Reaver (which you did today). Pretty sure you misunderstood me here and on a lot of my other points. I'm not attacking you at all. Not everything is made for a solo player's perspective or made to be used independently. Gailett's Inscribed Ring isn't a good ring to use on it's own, but if you combine it with the full combo, it's one of the most used accessories in PvE. On it's own, the Ice Monster Stone isn't a huge deal. Once you start to combine it with other cast speed reduction items though it really adds up and can cripple a healer, and has done so successfully many times. Your thread is starting to go extremely off-topic and becoming much more personal than it should be, so if you would like to drop this before it gets locked, I think now would be a good time to do so. I think a lot of what I said was misunderstood, but l apologize again if something I said offended you. Nothing was meant to be an attack.

You don't have to believe me, I'm simply saying that's my experience with it lol. I have nothing to prove to you, so please chill. Hope that answers your question. I haven't seen you do much else until you joined Indigo.

My IGNs are in my signature lol. Also I wasn't always an endgame geared person, I had to start from somewhere too. I went in there with 95 sets just like everyone else. I didn't just spawn into the game fully geared. You're literally saying exactly what I said though, that what you experienced is YOUR personal experience, not everyone's. I literally pull all of the mobs exactly like you said to a boss on Executioner (which takes increased damage because of one of their toggles) and live just fine, with no -dmg trophies or accessories, or even a shield. Yes I'm one of the more geared players now, but even when I wasn't I never died to a "handful of mobs" as you say. Not going to post specific names, but both of our parties had mdps. One of our parties yesterday was DB / GM / Equi / AE / Anni / etc. The other party had a mecha. We were doing it just fine with 15 people too (less than you had yesterday). Same strat. If you must know, it's extremely effective to drop cast speed vs. specific healers by combining this with other cast speed drops like Tienro's trophy. Not that you would ever know that, since I've only really seen you on Assassin and not in any form of coordinated PvP. Maybe that'll change though now that you've joined a bigger guild. This doesn't make it good content, and I'm sure even you can understand that. To conclude this all, please don't take this so personally. I apologize if I offended you, I was simply giving my opinions on what was said. If you don't agree with them then that's fine, but I don't believe there was a need to be so defensive. I wasn't coming at you or anything, so I'm sorry if it seemed like I was.

There's a couple things I don't really agree with and would like to give my opinion/comments on. I didn't play when trials were released but asked someone who did (because I didn't really believe it), and this wasn't how it was for them at all. They ignored mobs just as everyone does now. So this one seems to be your personal experience, not everyone's. 4 piece TA sets were extremely disliked when that cap was relevant, and it definitely wouldn't do well now considering the importance of current trophies. This is completely wrong. The Ice Monster Stone is extremely effective in PvP if used properly. This one is also good to use as a secondary stone after the Fire Monster Stone, since 90% of DPS will be using the Fire Monster Stone. Garden does literally this and it works fine. Mdps aren't useless in GvG, and there are plenty examples of it. Garden runs AE, Mecha, GM, BP, DB, Conj, etc. in GvG just like they do in TW. Not saying they're more useful than cappers, I do agree that capper meta is extremely strong right now. I don't really think you can say mdps is useless in GvG though when it's being proven to work as we speak. Bursting crystals isn't their job, but there's more to a GvG than just bursting crystals, even in our current capper meta.